First they assert Donald Trump lied and then their “expert” shows that there is a reasonable basis for his statement, hoping you won’t notice.
The media wants you to believe that Donald Trump lied when he said that Hillary Clinton was the co-founder, or MVP, of ISIS. Here’s NPR’s “All Things Considered” story:
We’re going to take a closer look now at Donald Trump’s comments about ISIS and the false claim that President Obama was a founder of the terrorist group.
Calling his claim “false” is obviously meant to give the impression that Donald Trump lied. The report sets you up to believe that they are about to easily and totally refute his fabrication.
But when Trump criticized Hillary Clinton for those decisions and calls her the co-founder of ISIS, Joby Warrick says that’s way off base.
Warrick is some kind of expert on ISIS because he has written a book. But here’s what they quote him as saying. Does it really show that Trump was “way off base”?
Among the president’s senior advisers, Hillary Clinton was one of the ones that was pressing the hardest to get, you know, aid for Syrian rebels to begin with in 2011, 2012. She was the one that was pushing for a residual U.S. troop presence in Iraq after 2011, and in some of those arguments, she was overruled by others in the administration. So to kind of blame her for the rise of ISIS just really doesn’t compute.
That shows that Trump made a “false claim”? She was Secretary of State! If Syria had become some kind of banana republic during that time, she would be using it in her campaign the way Obama used Libya in 2012. Warrick tells you all you need to know. She was “pressing the hardest to get… aid for” Islamic terrorists, some of whom eventually coalesced into ISIS.
Trump only called Hillary the co-founder, perhaps because he knows she opposed the other component of the rise of ISIS: removal of troops from Iraq. In my opinion, Hillary’s idea of sponsoring terrorists was far more important. She should be named the founder and Obama demoted to cofounder.
Apparently the interviewer, Ari Shapiro, realized he could no longer maintain the fiction that Trump’s claim was fiction. He changed his tune to “It’s complicated.”
Warrick says the true story of the U.S. and ISIS is complicated and nuanced.
Basically, the accusation is now morphing into the claim that Trump exaggerated—though listeners are not supposed to notice the shift.
You really can make the argument that some of these groups would not have been empowered to begin with if we hadn’t invaded Iraq, if the country had been managed properly after the invasion so security didn’t break down the way it did. So you can always find things that suggest that U.S. has some responsibility in this. It’s absolutely true. The trouble is when you oversimplify and you make this about a single person trying to score points instead of constructing a – you know, a sensible argument.
In other words, Presidential campaigns are all nonsense and Presidents and Secretaries of State are never responsible for “nuanced” and “complicated” foreign policy decisions. Somehow, this principle only applies to negative statements. Successes in foreign policy are always credited to the elected scum.
Wasn’t there a time when presidents at least gave lip service to the idea that “the buck stops here”?
Notice that Warwick doesn’t mention our sponsoring terrorists but goes back to the Bush years. But Donald Trump has criticized Bush for exactly that reason, and the media attacked him for it.
But I skipped over the most damning statement from Warwick:
It’s kind of like saying that Ronald Reagan was responsible for the rise of al-Qaida because he helped provide weapons to the mujahedeen in Afghanistan in the 1980s. To suggest that any one person, let alone a president, was responsible for the rise of this terrorist group is just crazy on face.
Before I respond to this, let me point out that the founder of the mujahedeen was Jimmy Carter.
Back in the nineties, Jimmy Carter’s National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, readily boasted that Jimmy Carter had secretly sponsored Islamists to overthrow the Russian-backed regime in Afghanistan. He bragged that they thus drew Russia into Afghanistan and weakened the Soviet Union. He was asked if he had any regrets about supporting and arming violent Jihadists:
Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn’t believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don’t regret anything today?
Brzezinski: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.
Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic [integrisme], having given arms and advice to future terrorists?
Brzezinski: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?
Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated: Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.
Brzezinski: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn’t a global Islam.
So, yes, the Reagan Administration is implicated, but at that time both Carter and Reagan might be excused for not realizing the consequences of the policy.
But what about Hillary Clinton. Was she not aware?
She knew full well what she was doing. We now know the Pentagon fully knew that the actions we were taking would lead to ISIS long before they made the news. I fail to understand how regime change in Syria is of equal value to the fall of the Soviet Union. I’m sure a reporter will ask her any day now.
Notice that Hillary wouldn’t call blaming Reagan for the mujaheddin a “false statement.”
Pinning the rise of ISIS on Obama and Hillary is one of the most important truths that Donald Trump has pronounced.