This past weekend HBO’s Bill Maher had an interesting conversation with serial plagiarist and CNN pundit Fareed Zakaria.
The two men found some common ground on the Democrat Party’s laser-focus on immigration and their refusal to recognize that their embrace of immigration should be tempered with expectations of assimilation.
Fareed Zakaria: There has been a lot of Illegal immigration into the country. There’s no question. Those illegal immigrants do depress the wages of working men and women in the United States who are citizens. I mean it just stands to reason that that’s happening, Secondly, there’s been a lot of legal immigration. In 1970, the number of foreign-borns in the United States was about 4.5% percent, it’s now about 14%. So it’s a big shift to take in and digest.
Bill Maher: Worthy of a debate.
Fareed Zakaria: Worthy of a debate, and worthy of talking about, ‘How would you assimilate better? What are the issues? Democrats, I think, partly because they decided that they were going to chase this idea of the great Hispanic majority that is emerging, decided to become completely absolutist on it. And I think they are missing the point on it. There are a lot of Americans who are ready to listen to Democrats on the economic message. All the data shows this. But they think the Democrats don’t get them on some of these cultural issues. This would be a perfect one to have some kind of a reasonable open debate to talk about more assimilation.
Bill Maher: I’m not sure I get it and I do read the paper. But, yes, I understand why people who don’t even read the paper look at the Democrats on this issue and just think that their policy is ‘come one, come all.’ That they live in this cult of celebrating diversity. If we ask questions about Muslim immigration — we would like it to be people like Dr. [Richard] Dawkins and myself not to be just looked upon as it has to just be a racist reason for that. First of all, it’s not a race, it’s a religion. But we’re talking about those shared values.
Fareed Zakaria: Part of what has happened is on the left is a kind of multiculturalism that says everything is equal, all these other cultures are equal, and, look, I can say as an immigrant, if I wanted to maintain Indian culture I could’ve stayed in India. The reason I came to America is because I admired American principles.
Bill Maher: One of the first things I said on my old show (ABC’s Politically Incorrect) is if you’re going to come to the melting pot, melt a little bit. You’ve got to melt a little. You can’t take a driver’s license photo in a burqa. We have to see your face.
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Maher and Zakaria also agreed on the disturbingly puritanical leftist trend towards political correctness.
After Zakaria appeared on Maher’s Real Time on HBO, Maher returned the favor and sat down with Zakaria for an interview on CNN.
When Zakaria noted the puritcanical streak that is running rampant on the political left, Maher agreed and chimed in that CNN’s recent firing of Trump apologist Jeffrey Lord was the perfect example of the disturbing trend.
Fareed Zakaria: It’s a really interesting thing I grapple with in America. There’s almost a sort of puritanism within the culture that says we’re going the shame, we’re going to censor, you can’t say these things. This is very different in a place like Europe. There’s a peculiarity in America on the right and the left, but particularly on the left there is this puritanism, there are things you can’t say.
Bill Maher: And it’s getting worse. I don’t know how long I’m going to last. Really. I mean it’s worse every year. The things that they go after people for now. I mean, your colleague, I don’t agree with him, Jeffrey Lord. I mean CNN got rid of him because he said ‘Sieg Heil’ on a tweet, it was a joke.
This has to stop, this idea of people have to go away if they’ve offended me even for one moment. How about just move on, turn the page? Go to the next thing in your life?
This idea that you cannot suffer one moment of pain, this comes I think from bad parenting. You know, these are the kids, these are the millennials, sorry, millennials, but these are the kids who grew up yelling at their parents, something that never even crossed my mind that I could do, and parents negotiating everything and this sense of entitlement that I should never feel any pain, even the pain of someone disagreeing with me.
It’s an alarming number of millennials who really don’t even believe in free speech, because you know what, free speech could lead to hurt feelings. Who gave these kids these priorities?
If liberals like Maher and Zakaria would focus more of their efforts on the weaknesses displayed by their allies on the left, they would be having far greater success in making our country a better place. Instead, both men have focused their attacks on the GOP, President Trump, and conservatives. While we may disagree on much, their attacks on us aren’t actually helping to convince anyone of their ideas… but their critique of their own team could help to change the culture of the left. Sadly, it seems they’d rather pick the low-hanging fruit of attacking the GOP on their leftist networks than do the real work of fixing their own side’s shortcomings.
You can see more of their conversation below: